September 22, 2017 (Sunday), 11:00-12:00 in Dendérah

gnn@ : potential new FreeBSD-based ARM users fall into 2 main categories:

  • embedded: throw-away SoC development in use for a year or two and then discarded by the vendor in favour of some other kit
  • systems: classic server type usage, longer term where support and interaction w/ community evolves

objectives should be:

  • ensure the throw-away SOCs work without much effort using a GENERIC kernel
  • andrew@ important to have GENERIC kernel network booting easily
  • both packages and customistable poudriere need to be availabl
  • gnn@ will check via kylie@ who mentioned the Chinese railway is using FreeBSD for signage is it on ARM?
  • gnn@ cloudy ARMy rumours at microsoft
  • semihalf is still doing bulk of development
  • stormshield - france based
  • various indecipherable rumours and grumblings about super secret projects from unnameable entities
  • getting hardware - gnn@ has good contacts via the foundation make use of them
  • mainly manu & kibab
  • sdio is a bus extension
  • used to connect wifi and similar devices
  • mmc-cam is similar
  • not enabled by default
  • reaching feature parity between mmc/sdio is not so difficult
  • many people are interested in faster SD cards
  • better debugging would a big help
  • somebody is working in NetBSD on the wifi

gnn:

  • marius/steve have a bunch of patches
  • please discuss on bsd mips
  • kabib & gnn to make some contacts to move this along
  • gnn@ - rasppi says they expect stable h/w for the next couple of years (rpi3 & rpi0) so lets make that as solid as possible and $PROFIT$
  • manu@ - BBB is still the better board, better support, but less well known
  • manu@ : both bbb and rasppi have *some* touchscreen support
  • ??IDX support what even was that about
  • manu@ - armv6 (rpi0+1) & armv7 split (everything else) is coming soon
  • thumb is only 32 bit
  • reminder that 11 & 12 now have official packages from the project
  • poudriere cross-compilation needs more tutorials
  • madpilot@ offered to write his notes up, dch@ will test them
  • madpilot@ reports that poudriere builds in a qemu jail still work after the soft/hard fp switch (NOTE: jails need to be rebuild from scratch across such changes)
  • start small with low expectations
  • boot loader support is first, uboot is required with a special ABI/API enabled
  • all you want to start with is a serial console avoid the rest
  • linux has a post-boot netconsole over udp a la netcat - this would be super handy
  • would it be possible to get a base system “vagrant up” type thing will all the

dev things? it would be great for newcomers to get them started fast

  • aka arm-to-go / a plugin usb gadget
  • beagleboneblack, rpi3, rpi0
  • is this actually finished? gnn to follow up as its used at Cambridge
  • netbooting stuff is a bit out of date
  • more generic docs are needed
  • kabib@ offered to write them and dch@ will test them
  • devsummit/201709/arm.txt
  • Last modified: 2017/09/24 12:54
  • by GuidoFalsi